My personal suggestion would be to give the Camarilla people the Carthian super power (or more likely a revamped version of it) and the Sabbat people the Invictus super power (likewise). It's massively incomplete, because I'm working off the top of my head: So here's a partial list of the groups that exist in oWoD Vampire that you will want to classify as Major, Minor, Cult, Club, or Banned. Obvious Example: House Tremere.Ī Club is an organization that you belong to where you can seriously just belong to other Clubs and groups and whatever and no one kicks up a fuss about that. Obvious Example: Sanguis Giovanni.Ī Cult is an organization that you belong to that does not preclude being a member of a Covenant, but does preclude being a member of another Cult. Obvious Example: Camarilla.Ī Minor Covenant is like a Major one in that membership is exclusive, but differs in that its membership and reach is limited. Being a member of one makes you a citizen of it and automatically not a member of any of the others.

A Major Covenant is a big world faction that has international resources and arbitrarily large membership.

That means that the other bullshit warring nations that you might not have heard of like the Disciples of Baal probably have to be relegated or ignored for the same reason (unless you want to keep them around as no-frills combat enemies). That's actually bad for the game, so they should get relegated to Major Covenants so that the different groups can talk to each other and have political intrigue. You have to assign them status as 'Warring Nations,' 'Major Covenants,' 'Minor Covenants,' 'Cults,' and 'Clubs.' In oWoD there are two main warring nations: the Camarilla and the Sabbat. And as long as you're up front about it, that's fine.īut you do have to decide which groups are in and which are out. I can personally name at least four mutually incompatible writeups of the Sabbat, even counting the entire heroin inspired fever dream of Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand as 'one.' So your quandary isn't just 'Do I include the Kindred of the East Ghost Empire of Jade?' (No.) Your quandary is 'Assuming for the moment that we're including the Camarilla, which version of the Camarilla are we using?' And yeah, you'll probably end up doing a hybrid setup, using pieces that are cool from different writeups n different books. The big question you'd have to ask yourself is how much of the stuff you're porting in, and what version of the stuff you're putting in.

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